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 10-09-2003, 08:18 Post: 65868
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The old fella who lives up the roiad from our hunt camp was born & raised in that area, as were several generations of his family. He spent most of his life in the woods, as did his father & grandfather who were both professional hunters, the timber companies would hire tham to hunt to provide provisions for the workmen.

He told me years ago that he had been taught to completely ignore a charging bear, apparently when one bear spots another in the wild they will often make a mock charge, just to test the reaction of the other. In all but exceptional circumstances the charging bear will either pull up or turn away then just go on about it's business. He claims it's worse to try and shoot the bear because this only escalates the mochk charge into the real thing, a fight for his life. The bear will usually win in this case.

He claims to have been charged countless times over the years, each time he stood his ground and the bear just ignored him. He said one got so close as it went by it brushed his leg.

I'm not sure I want to test the theory, but he is still out in the woods and just fine... OF course with my luck I would find a bear who had never learned that theory...

Besides, I doubt it holds true of bears which have had exposure to humans.

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 10-10-2003, 11:33 Post: 65956
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I don't know about 'tame tigers' but I'll tell you the mostly 'tame widcat' I live with is nothing to mess with, especially if provoked.

As for charges, they're not 'mock' at all, I get the bills at the end of every month to prove it too.

The only safe spot I have found is the shop, she doesn't go out there, she says she gets dirty just walking past the place so she rarely enters, I keep the 'provisions' in an old fridge aquired for just such purpose and she doesn't get to them either.

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 10-21-2003, 08:16 Post: 66704
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I'm told the real problem with spray is not it's effectiveness. The danger is running into a bear who has been sprayed previously, remebers the smell, and takes the mere presence of it as a threat and responds accordingly.

Like it or not firearms are very good at preventing recidivism, in humans or bears. There is a very low rate of repeat offenders after the big bang.

I suppose the risk of shooting someone accidentally has to also be weighed against the risk of someone being attacked if a problem bear is not dealt with permanently.

I guess we should be most thankful that it was humans who invented the gun and not bears.....Laughing out loud.

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 10-21-2003, 16:10 Post: 66733
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Glad to pass, BUT, be careful, it's not just the Canadian bears you have to watch out for, our BEERS bite too..

Why just the other day I heard of a fella knocking a couple back quickly, they took the legs right out from under him..........

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 10-22-2003, 10:19 Post: 66793
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Chief, with all due respect, I'll take that bet.

A mature black bear can only achieve about 25 mph, and that takes a bit. Even if he had a a running start it wouldn't be too hard to get there first, especially since I leave the door open.

As for him ramming his skull through the truck door window, that's not likely to happen since a mature male is only about 5' tall standing up, in which position they have very poor balance, they can only run on all 4 feet at which time they are only 3' tall, a dent in the door skin is possible though I suppose. I do know the 'panic' button on my trucks keyless entry system makes more than enough noise to scare a bear off, they seem to learn when very young not to pick a fight with a vehicle.

Careful is very good advise, however let's put the risk in a little perspective here. The following facts are from the United States Department of Agriculture's Forest Service.

Recorded killings by Black bears for all of North America this CENTURY, 28.

The 500,000 Black bears in North America kill fewer than 1 person every 3 years.

Or if you want to compare apples to apples, for EVERY person who is killed by a Black bear, 17 people are killed by spiders, 25 people are killed by snakes, 67 people are killed by dogs, 150 people are killed by tornadoes, 180 people are killed by bee or wasp stings, 374 people are killed by lightning, and 90,000 are murdered.

Before someone says "but what about a mother with cubs?" this is what they say on that subject.

"Unlike grizzly bear mothers, black bear mothers seldom attack people in defense of cubs. Black bear mothers typically bluff or retreat. Researchers who routinely capture cubs by chasing them up trees have not been
attacked even when they have held screaming cubs. The ferocity of mother black bears is one of the biggest misconceptions about this species."

'Nuff said.

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